MIB - Mandriva International Backports

Rosa 2012 Marathon - Testing, Whishlist, ToDo and Suggestions...

This is a place where we can discuss about the new distro called Rosa 2012 Marathon:
based on Mandriva 2011, with many updates and fixes both in core parts and user apps

MIB has some testers that are trying the test isos, and report all problems to be fixed.
People different than testers may even collaborate here, writing their own whishlist...


Repository configuration
To configure all the software fonts for Rosa 2012lts, you can use these small scripts:

Rosa 2012 LTS - 64bit Rosa 2012 LTS - 32bit

Feedback from our testers, about latest #178 and #193 ISOs

It has been reported that almost everything already seems to work fine

PROS

• install times are incredible fast, the really lowest times in every distro:
  install time range from a little more of two minutes upto eight minutes,
  and no more needing to delete unused languages after the install...
  Spoiler:  Click here to view >cat /var/log/explanations | grep 'localhost draklive-install'

  
  

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      Mar 31 13:53:35 localhost draklive-install[4146]: ### Program is starting ###
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda1
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda5
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda6
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda1
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda5
      Mar 31 13:53:38 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda6
      Mar 31 13:53:44 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /root/.inspect_tmp_dir (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:53:44 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: mount -t ext4 UUID=a376b5d6-c99b-494b-b0f6-c6ef4ebc9afc /root/.inspect_tmp_dir -o ro
      Mar 31 13:53:47 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: umount /root/.inspect_tmp_dir
      Mar 31 13:53:47 localhost draklive-install[4146]: modified file /etc/mtab
      Mar 31 13:53:47 localhost draklive-install[4146]: removed files/directories /root/.inspect_tmp_dir
      Mar 31 13:53:47 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /root/.inspect_tmp_dir (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:53:47 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: mount -t ext4 UUID=f6ce6a3e-1bbd-44ac-9f35-08b001603d6f /root/.inspect_tmp_dir -o ro
      Mar 31 13:53:47 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: umount /root/.inspect_tmp_dir
      Mar 31 13:53:47 localhost draklive-install[4146]: modified file /etc/mtab
      Mar 31 13:53:47 localhost draklive-install[4146]: removed files/directories /root/.inspect_tmp_dir
      Mar 31 13:54:09 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /mnt/install (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:54:14 localhost draklive-install[4146]: launched command: umount /dev/sda1
      Mar 31 13:54:14 localhost draklive-install[4146]: launched command: umount /dev/sda6
      Mar 31 13:54:15 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: tune2fs -c0 -i0 /dev/sda1
      Mar 31 13:54:15 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda1
      Mar 31 13:54:15 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /mnt/install/ (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:54:15 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: mount -t ext4 UUID=a376b5d6-c99b-494b-b0f6-c6ef4ebc9afc /mnt/install
      Mar 31 13:54:15 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: mkswap -U ed7198c3-9d87-47ed-beda-a5c15c3d7138 /dev/sda5
      Mar 31 13:54:15 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda5
      Mar 31 13:54:16 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: tune2fs -c0 -i0 /dev/sda6
      Mar 31 13:54:16 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: blkid -o udev -p /dev/sda6
      Mar 31 13:54:16 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: tune2fs -o user_xattr /dev/sda6
      Mar 31 13:54:16 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /mnt/install/home (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:54:16 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: mount -t ext4 UUID=f6ce6a3e-1bbd-44ac-9f35-08b001603d6f /mnt/install/home
      Mar 31 13:54:19 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created file /proc/sys/kernel/real-root-dev
      Mar 31 13:54:19 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: /bin/rpm -qa --qf %{name}
      Mar 31 13:54:24 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: urpme --auto locales-fr locales-es locales-pl locales-de locales-ru locales-nl locales-pt locales-no locales-uk with root /
      Mar 31 13:55:11 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /mnt/install/dev (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:55:11 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /mnt/install/proc (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:55:11 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: mount -t proc none /mnt/install/proc
      Mar 31 13:55:11 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /mnt/install/sys (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:55:11 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: mount -t sysfs none /mnt/install/sys
      Mar 31 13:55:11 localhost draklive-install[4146]: created directory /mnt/install/proc/bus/usb (and parents if necessary)
      Mar 31 13:55:11 localhost draklive-install[4146]: running: mount -t usbfs none /mnt/install/proc/bus/usb
      Mar 31 13:55:11 localhost draklive-install[4146]: copied recursively /dev to /mnt/install, staying on same partition
  

  
  
  
  Since Tue 31 13:53:35 upto Tue 31 13:55:11 > are only two minutes...
  (Results from my real (not vm) hard-disk Install on a Phenon X4 with 4 Giga ram)
• nvidia 9500 is configured using by default nvidia drivers 295.33,
  it's good to know we have all proprietary video drivers in our isos!
  (nvidia-96xx, nvidia173, nvidia-current, fglrx catalyst, others...)
• new KLook is a wonderfull new feature:
  it's really very useful, powerful and easy to use
• i found installed by default kernel-devel, kernel-headers, firmwares,
  good choice having also "make" & "gcc" as preinstalled, it's very good
• Kudos for kernel, it's really good for me:
  for the first time vmware tools build everything happily and without any errors
  Spoiler:  Click here to view > Starting vmware-tools (via systemctl)

  
  

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  Creating a new initrd boot image for the kernel.
  Starting vmware-tools (via systemctl):                                                                                      [  OK  ]
  The configuration of VMware Tools 8.8.2 build-590212 for Linux for this running
  kernel completed successfully.
  
  You must restart your X session before any mouse or graphics changes take
  effect.
  
  You can now run VMware Tools by invoking "/usr/bin/vmware-toolbox-cmd" from the
  command line or by invoking "/usr/bin/vmware-toolbox" from the command line
  during an X server session.
  
  To enable advanced X features (e.g., guest resolution fit, drag and drop, and
  file and text copy/paste), you will need to do one (or more) of the following:
  1. Manually start /usr/bin/vmware-user
  2. Log out and log back into your desktop session; and,
  3. Restart your X session.
  
  Enjoy,
  
  --the VMware team
  
  Found VMware Tools CDROM mounted at /media/VMware Tools. Ejecting device
  /dev/sr0 ...
  [root@user vmware-tools-distrib]#

  
  
  

Things to fix

• The msg to deactivate Akonadi is only in cyrillic:
  please this must be multilanguage, or in english
• In live mode it's still too sloooow to start
• The installer hangs and go back to the partitioning tools if you choose
  btrfs for / and home,
  if you select btrfs for root and ext4 for /home, it says error mounting /home,
  nothing to do with btrfs, so I abandoned the idea, I used ext4 and all is fine
• Simple Welcome shows the default folders ever in English:
  I have them in my lang in dolphin, but I can see only in english
  Documents, Immages, Models, Music, Download, Videos
  in my case (in italian) I should see
  Documenti, Immagini, Modelli, Musica, Scaricati, Video
• new KLook beta has some audio problem:
  playing videos, it often plays some videos without the audio part
• broadcom related packages are missing from the iso,
  so broadcom wifi cards won't be usable.
• Pulse has problems, it can't be used with 2 audio cards
  so it could be useful adding to the iso also the utility
  alsaconfig
  for users needing to bypass Pulse, using Alsa instead
  Is would be possible having a newer Pulseaudio version?
  Spoiler:  Click here to view > # lshw -short

  
  

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  Different Hadware, similar Pulse audio server problems
  
  [root@localhost ~]# lshw -short
  H/W path       Device      Class       Description
  ==================================================
                             system      HP G62 Notebook PC (LF773EA#ABZ)
  /0                         bus         143C
  /0/0                       memory      1MiB BIOS
  /0/23                      memory      4GiB System Memory
  /0/23/0                    memory      2GiB DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1066 MHz (0,9
  /0/23/1                    memory      2GiB DIMM DDR3 Synchronous 1066 MHz (0,9
  /0/2c                      processor   AMD Athlon(tm) II P340 Dual-Core Processo
  /0/2c/2d                   memory      256KiB L1 cache
  /0/2c/2e                   memory      1MiB L2 cache
  /0/100                     bridge      RS880 Host Bridge
  /0/100/1                   bridge      RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx)
  /0/100/1/5                 display     RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series]
  /0/100/1/5.1               multimedia  RS880 HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4200 Series]
  (pulse nn vanno manco su questa scheda )
  /0/100/3                   bridge      RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 1)
  /0/100/3/0                 display     Manhattan [Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
  /0/100/5                   bridge      RS780/RS880 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port
  /0/100/5/0     eth0        network     RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethern
  /0/100/7                   bridge      RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3)
  /0/100/7/0                 network     BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controll
  ( la cheda wifi nn puo essere configurata mancano i pacchetti broadcom dalla iso vedi l'magine allegata)
  
  /0/100/11      scsi0       storage     SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [AHCI m
  /0/100/11/0    /dev/sda    disk        320GB WDC WD3200BEVT-6
  /0/100/11/0/1  /dev/sda1   volume      199MiB Windows NTFS volume
  /0/100/11/0/2  /dev/sda2   volume      154GiB Windows NTFS volume
  /0/100/11/0/3  /dev/sda3   volume      16GiB Windows NTFS volume
  /0/100/11/0/4  /dev/sda4   volume      103MiB Windows FAT volume
  /0/100/11/1    /dev/cdrom  disk        CDDVDW TS-L633R
  /0/100/12                  bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
  /0/100/12.2                bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
  /0/100/14                  bus         SBx00 SMBus Controller
  /0/100/14.2                multimedia  SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
  (pulse nn vanno manco su questa)
  /0/100/14.3                bridge      SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
  /0/100/14.4                bridge      SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
  /0/100/16                  bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
  /0/100/16.2                bus         SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
  /0/101                     bridge      Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Confi
  /0/102                     bridge      Family 10h Processor Address Map
  /0/103                     bridge      Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller
  /0/104                     bridge      Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Contro
  /0/105                     bridge      Family 10h Processor Link Control
  /0/1           scsi2       storage    
  /0/1/0.0.0     /dev/sdb    disk        16GB SCSI Disk
  /0/1/0.0.0/1   /dev/sdb1   volume      14GiB Windows FAT volume
  /1                         power       MU06047

  
  
  
• cat /var/log/boot.log | grep FAILED
  Is all that below so important? If possible these are other things to fix
  Spoiler:  Click here to view > cat /var/log/boot.log | grep FAILED

  
  

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  [root@symbianflo Documenti]# cat /var/log/boot.log | grep FAILED
  Failed to start Recreate Volatile Files and Directories                                    [FAILED]
  Failed to start Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack                                                    [FAILED]
  Failed to start Initialize hardware monitoring sensors                                     [FAILED]
  Failed to start LSB: Winbind naming service (winbindd)                                     [FAILED]
  Failed to start Avahi mDNS/DNS-SD Stack                                                    [FAILED]
  [root@symbianflo Documenti]#
  

  
  
  
• When installing, if Advanced, it asks you if you want to enable xguest user:
  if you answer 'Yes', it informs you that the package xguest does not exists

Suggestions:

• Support again the raid install mode (mdx):
  in mandriva 2011 this feature has been lost
• I don't like debug/not debug packages in the same repos.
  lists are bigger, searches are more difficult
• Add some more very usefull programs
  - Kaffeine + dvb-apps > for TV card & usb >
  - Minitube and/or Gmediafinder >for Youtube videos
  - Quadkonsole > for better konsole > http://nomis80.org/
  - Choqok - defined best microblogging app
  - FileZilla - it's the best ftp client app
  - Qbittorrent - the best torrent app
  - Calibre - for ebook reading
  - Inkscape - best SVG editor, similar to Adobe Illustrator
  - Scribus - best WYSIWYG editor similar to Quark XPress
  - Gimp - preferable the 2.8 rc branch, the best image editor
  - Blender - 3D editor
  - K3B - it seems missing???
  - Audacity - best audio editor
  - Qt-recordmydesktop - to record desktop sessions
  - Avidemux - video editor
  - Kdeenlive - non linear video editor
  - Timidity++ and Kmid - for midi plater and karaoke
  - XBMC 11 - best media center
  - Wine32 - it need for many win32 apps
  
  and with some script to install from the web
  - TeamViewer - the most used to remote desktop control
  - Skype - It's a must, we must have it
  - Google Earth
  - Google Picasa
  - Vmware Player
• provide a working rescue mode in the first menu
• in the kde prefs menu there are clementine and kontact, but they are not installed.
• Gnome look without composite manager enabled is really ugly,
  moving windows across the video is slow and not fluid at all
  Enable compmgr > we have better moving windows and 3D look with depth & shadows
  to enable and test, there is a command
  gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool true
  to disable, the same with false
  gconftool-2 -s '/apps/metacity/general/compositing_manager' --type bool false
  My experience says that 99% of HW is capable to use Composite:
  I would like to have this feature by default, or button to enable/disable
  From command> gconf-editor , go to
  Apps-> metacity-> general >
  set flag on the checkbox called compositing_manager
  windows will be generated with composite and shadows
  To disable deflag the same checkbox

Questions:

• Too many packages aren't in the repository. can we add ufficial Mandriva repos?
  or we have to tell you the packages that we think you have to add?
• Will be possible to roll mandriva 2011 to rosa 2012 without the need to reinstall:
  do you think to add some command, like task_rosa2012, to make this operation as easy possible

Install time is really impressive

The look is amazing, not my favorite, but very nice.

but

- in live mode it's still too sloooow to start
- i don't like debug/not debug packages in the same repos. lists are bigger, searches are more difficult
- in the kde prefs menu there are clementine and kontact, but they are not installed
- too many packages aren't in the repository. can we add ufficial Mandriva repos? or we have to tell you the packages that we think you have to add?
- some ugly icons in SimpleWelcome(pavucontrol is terrible )

Please, provide a working rescue mode in the first menu


Ciao, Luca.

It's soooo cool

Audio failed on SB Audigy And SND Intel sound card, pulse libs on 64 bit never worked on my machines,
and the broadcom related packages are missing from the iso, so broadcom wifi cards won't be usable.

What are the repo to be set to follow the whole development?

Whenever necessary to install the snapshot?

Bye.

astragalo wrote:What are the repo to be set to follow the whole development?

Use 2011.0 repos then add also repos from
ftp://ftp.yandex.ru/rosa/rosa2012lts/repository/

I'll prepare strings to add repos, very soon...

azioga wrote:Install time is really impressive

The look is amazing, not my favorite, but very nice.

but

- in live mode it's still too sloooow to start
- i don't like debug/not debug packages in the same repos. lists are bigger, searches are more difficult
- in the kde prefs menu there are clementine and kontact, but they are not installed
- too many packages aren't in the repository. can we add ufficial Mandriva repos? or we have to tell you the packages that we think you have to add?
- some ugly icons in SimpleWelcome(pavucontrol is terrible )

Please, provide a working rescue mode in the first menu


Ciao, Luca.

I've dumped the iso on usb stick with unetbootin, and in live mode it's fastest mandriva ( ?? ) ever....
i don't know from dvd how it works but from usb it's 23 seconds from 0 to kde desktop ( passing thru language set and time zone..)

yes i meant livedvd is very slow.
but now i'm too curious......
wife where is my usb stick???


postedit

i tried with version 179.
dd on my usb stick.
liveusb starts very fast, but after "Started Configure read-only root support" it takes a break of a minute or two ...
after it continues very fast.

tried on two different machines

I'm writing from 2012 (#188), live mode:
broadcom perfect working
alsa up and running
nvidia && ati checked on 3 machines (one with fgrlx, two with nvidia) run just fine


request ( if it's possible)
could be insert skype into the iso?

ominomichelin wrote:request ( if it's possible)
could be insert skype into the iso?

So far I know it was already decided not to include Skype.

Pulfer wrote:

ominomichelin wrote:request ( if it's possible)
could be insert skype into the iso?

So far I know it was already decided not to include Skype.

Ok .. nevermind i can live without it
The skype gap it's covered by the all other incredible features included into the iso .
thx

Hi all,

iso 192 version 64 autologin doesn't work.

Regards

Dago68

### Request ####
Could it be populated /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg in the iso ?
So at boot, live or install mode the repository list it's already up and runnig
Thx in advance.

How do I upgrade Mandriva 2011 to Marathon 2012 by adding the repository ftp://ftp.yandex.ru/rosa/rosa2012lts/ in konsole by the nail?

fraterlinux wrote:How do I upgrade Mandriva 2011 to Marathon 2012 by adding the repository ftp://ftp.yandex.ru/rosa/rosa2012lts/ in konsole by the nail?

You must wait some days, because the rosa2012lts repositories are uncomplete
It should be prepared some command (task_rosa2012lts) to update from 2011 to rosa2012, but it must be tested

we will inform about when it will be possible do this operation in a safely way...